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Every year, thousands of folks of all ages, from
all over the world, pack their bags and set off
for a long awaited vacation in Thailand, which
happens to be my home now. They stay for just a
couple of weeks or up to perhaps 3 months, before
reluctantly booking their flight home, and for
many, this is sometimes their 20th or 30th yearly
trip!
And, like myself, thousands of these vacationers
have spent a great deal of time and effort, trying
to work out how they can live in Thailand
permanently, and this first section in our
Relocate to Pattaya series, is an attempt to
explain why you too should perhaps consider life
in the Land of Smiles.
Although much of the information in this series
can be applied to all of Thailand, most of our
Club Members live in Pattaya, or are hoping to
move here soon, and the information presented here
is mainly as a result of our work with the Pattaya
Expats Club.
My name is Pete and I am one of the founders of
the Pattaya Expats Club, which is dedicated to all
of us expats enjoying the good life in Pattaya,
and those of you across the world that would like
to join us here.
The Pattaya Expats Club is all about expats
helping expats and all Nationalities are welcome.
Whatever your question or problem, you can be sure
there is another expat in the Club who has "been
there, done that". New friends who are ready to
share their experience and expertise on anything
and everything to make your stay in Pattaya more
enjoyable. Free assistance on one year Visas,
medical insurance, home buying etc., so find out
the facts BEFORE you make an expensive mistake.
So what better group to explain to you why they
wake up each morning with a smile on their face,
happy to live in this beautiful corner of the
world. We have in excess of 10,000 expats living
in Pattaya, and all of us have a different story
to tell, but I have tried to distil the experience
of many of our members to explain the magic of
living in Pattaya, so here goes:
If you are middle aged, or older, you can be sure
that living in Pattaya will knock at least 10
years off your age, and probably 30 years off your
attitude to life. You truly will start thinking
like you did as a young man or woman, full of
anticipation in each new day, and happy to be
alive.
Need some proof of this? Just spend a few days in
Pattaya and try to explain the smile of
contentment on the faces of expats young and old.
The magic is in the people of Thailand, and
particularly in the friendliness of the young Thai
women. Where else in the world would a 70 year old
be greeted by a friendly smile from a beautiful
and graceful Thai girl as you walk along Beach
Road? And that smile is a genuine expression of
her happiness that you are visiting her country ¡V
and you will be walking on air all day!
A cartoon in the Pattaya Mail recently said it
quite succinctly:
Before moving to Pattaya: 68 years old, wife died,
no job, small pension, lonely, family never come
to see me, neighbors do not speak, body aches with
rheumatism and arthritis, rain 11 months of the
year, high gas, electricity and food bills,
savings being gobbled up, crap TV, nobody cares.
Just waiting to die.
After the move to Pattaya: 68 years old, widowed,
pension, never lonely ¡V who cares if the family
visits? Neighbors are so friendly, rheumatism and
arthritis gone, sunshine all year. Cheap gas,
electricity and food bills, savings intact,
pension goes farther. TV great, football, movies,
no license fees. Best sex in 40 years. Lovely
people, thank you God, thank you Thailand.
And here is a similar view from one of our
members:
The friendly welcome I always get from Thai
people, young and old, rich and poor. A beautiful
smile as you pass a stranger in the street that
makes you feel on top of the world and happy to be
alive in Pattaya.
Beautiful weather, even the rain is warm!
Breathtaking beaches, just take a bike ride down
Jomtien Beach Road in the morning.
Low cost of living, you can live like a King on
$1,000 a month or less!
Something about the Buddhist religion that seems
to help people get along with each other.
The joy of getting to know Thai families and their
beautiful and well behaved children. The nice
feeling you get when all of the neighbors come to
your home to share a meal in the cool evenings.
The relief to be able to live an uncomplicated
life without the day to day stress that is just a
normal part of life in many Countries.
Delicious food with a fantastic abundance of fruit
and vegetables, fish and seafood etc.
Excellent medical care, knowing that the doctors
and nurses really care for you as a human being,
rather than a calculation about how many dollars
you can be charged. No waiting, well trained staff
and low, low prices.
Thank you Pattaya, thank you Thailand.
All I can tell you is that young or old, man or
woman, rich or poor, fat or thin, healthy or not
so healthy, you are missing out on the time of
your life if you do not visit Pattaya at least
once. But, be careful, odds are that you will fall
in love with the place and start to plan full time
living here in the Land of Smiles.
Cost of Living
Not only is Pattaya a fun and exciting place to
live, but here it is possible to enjoy life very
comfortably on well under US$1,000 per month, or
about 40,000 baht. This would be enough to rent a
comfortable, two bedroom home for yourself and
your partner, and take care of all of the
essential expenses, and with enough left over to
enjoy your leisure time – golf for instance or any
other sports, and a night on the town every so
often etc.
Here are some typical examples of the essentials –
with low end, moderate and luxurious options.
These examples are for a couple, say an American
or European etc., with a Thai partner. Everything
is in Thai Baht and US$’s and the cost is per
month. Note that the exchange rate varies somewhat
but the baht numbers are exact.
Item Low end Moderate Luxurious
Rent home 4,300 ($100) 10,000 ($233) 15,000 ($350)
Electricity 400 ($10) 1,000 ($24) 3,000 ($70)
Cable TV 300 ($7) 300 ($7) 300 ($7)
City water 350 ($8) 430 ($10) 645 ($15)
Drinking water (delivered) 80 ($2) 160 ($4) 250
($6)
Food (groceries) 2,500 ($58) 4,500 ($105) 8,000
($186)
Fresh fruit and vegetables 1,000 ($23) 1.500 ($35)
2,500 ($58)
And here are some individual items for comparison
with home prices:
Jar of Chivers Marmalade 12oz 86 ($2)
Bottle of HP Sauce 255 grams 90 ($2.10)
Can of premium beer 35 ($0.81)
1 Kilo various fruits in season 30 ($0.70)
Large Pineapple 10 ($0.23)
One Pound of bananas 5 ($0.10)
Local telephone call (unlimited time) 3 ($0.07)
Internet connection (per hour) 8 ($0.19)
And how about eating out?
American Breakfast (Eggs, bacon, toast, coffee) 38
($0.88)
English Breakfast (Egg, Bacon, Sausage, Fried
Bread, Toast, Tea) 70 ($1.65)
Thai lunch (Chicken soup and chicken breast on
rice) 30 ($0.70)
American Soup and Salad Bar 90 ($2.10)
Draft Beer (half pint) – Happy Hour 30 ($0.70)
Draft Beer – regular prices 45 ($1.05)
British Sunday Roast Beef dinner etc 195 ($4.50)
First Class Continental dinner 295 ($6.90)
American Fast Food Chains – complete meal) 70
($1.65)
Ice cream cone 7 ($0.16)
The cost of medical care in Pattaya is very
reasonable. Although you do not need a Doctor’s
prescription to purchase antibiotics for instance,
there are some excellent drug stores here
(including Boots the Chemist of England) where you
can get excellent free advice. As an example, a 5
day course of antibiotics would cost about 200
baht or under $5. Boots also provides an excellent
value health insurance vacation package (up to one
year) for coverage while you are traveling, but
you need a UK address. Check out the details at
www.pattayaexpatsclub.com for this and other
options.
There are two or three excellent hospitals in
Pattaya, with European or USA trained doctors, and
the service here is excellent. As an example I
recently had to go to the Emergency Room at the
Bangkok Pattaya Hospital after a motor cycle
accident. I required X-rays to my head and foot
(luckily nothing broken), a check over by the
doctor, dressings on my foot, and several
medications for 10 days. Including one follow up
visit, the total cost was 1,690 baht or $40!
Earlier in the year I had two moles removed by a
specialist in Dermatology there – no waiting,
excellent care and a total bill of 1,300 baht or
$30. Compare that to my experience in the USA
where I had planned to have the moles removed.
There was a wait of 3 months to see the
Dermatologist, a minimum fee of $300 just for him
to tell me the moles should be removed and then
who knows how much for the actual surgery!
Golfing – Pattaya has 18 world class golf clubs in
the immediate area and the greens fees vary from
400 to 600 baht (about $10 to $14) for guests
during the week, to about 1,000 baht ($23) on the
weekend.
LEARNING THE LANGUAGE
It is possible to live in Pattaya without learning
a single word of the Thai language. Happily, the
staff in the hotels, restaurants and shops speak
at least a little English, German and French etc.,
and you will have no difficulty in making yourself
understood - especially if you smile a lot!
No doubt too, it will not be very long before you
find yourself a companion, and then you will have
someone to translate for you when necessary. It is
amazing how quickly the young people in Thailand
learn your language, and there are several
language schools in Pattaya to help them. In fact,
for just 50 baht (US$1.25) a month, your Thai girl
friend or boy friend can go to school for a couple
of hours daily, to learn the language.
It is also true that, no matter how poor you are
at learning a new language, you will eventually
know enough Thai words to make yourself understood
wherever you go in Thailand, just by listening
everyday to those around you. Never mind that you
are saying the word on a rising note instead of a
falling one, eventually you will get it right and
your Thai friends will stop giggling every time
you open your mouth.
However, there is a great deal of satisfaction in
at least being able to speak the language
fluently, and being able to understand what others
are saying. You will have so much more fun, and
doors will be open to you that were previously
closed, so why not go ahead, make the effort and
get a lifetime of benefits. Who knows? One day you
may even be able to write and read in Thai!
There are several choices when it comes to
learning the language:
1 Learn from your spouse or friend. Not a great
idea because neither of you will put a great deal
of effort into the task and also, you may end up
speaking the Thai equivalent of a broad cockney
accent!
2 Buy one of those computer programs that walks
you through the sounds, and even grades your
progress. Not a bad way of learning if you can
stick to it, but most people I know find it a
great effort to sit in front of your monitor for
hours on end. Certainly not much fun and soon the
attractions of Pattaya will be calling you and the
computer disk gathers dust in your drawer.
3 Sign up for some one on one lessons with a
professional. The prices are reasonable (100 baht
or less for an hour) and you will probably make
good progress. I tried this myself for a time, but
I found that although I could say the words OK in
class, they were all forgotten in an hour! What
you really need is practice, practice and more
practice, preferably on a small group of words at
a time until they are firmly fixed in your head.
One other disadvantage of the one on one method,
at least from my point of view; I found the
lessons somewhat tense as I tried to master some
of the more impossible pronunciations.
4. So my favorite way of learning a new language
is in a small group of say 4 or 5 friends with a
really competent instructor. The lessons are fun
as no one minds embarrassing themselves with
friends, and as you all start to see progress,
there is a real incentive to learn more and more.
In fact my son is presently learning Oriental
Languages at CSUN, and he has made incredible
progress since starting a Japanese social club on
campus - so I think this is the way most people
learn the best.
As it happens, we have set up a small group
learning environment in the Pattaya Expats Club.
So the next time you are in Pattaya you are
invited to our regular Sunday breakfast meetings,
where you can also sign up for your first group
learning module, with a great instructor. Details
on our web site at www.pattayaexpatsclub.com
Visas
One of the more surprising things we have found
out, regarding obtaining a one year Visa (with
multiple entries), is that it is much easier at
one of the Honorary Thai Consulate General offices
in the USA, the United Kingdom, Australia, Germany
and possibly many other Countries. Once you get to
Thailand, or the general South East Asia region,
it is much more difficult.
These are the options you have for a long term
stay in Thailand. Note that the Visas are issued
yearly and often you will be required to leave the
Country every 3 months. This can be done by making
use of the many Visa Run services from Pattaya to
Poipet (on the Cambodian border), where you would
leave at 8am and return home at about 6pm. The
cost for the coach trip and the Visa fees is 2,000
baht ($48).
Note that the Thai government has recently
increased most Visa charges. Check at the end of
this section for the new fee schedule and also log
on to www.thaivisa.com for up to the minute visa
information.
Option I (recommended)
Before you leave your home Country, contact any
Honorary Thai Consulate – not the Thai Embassies
in the large cities). You can see a list of these
Consulates in the United States, the United
Kingdom and Germany on our web site at
www.pattayaexpatsclub.com.
These consulates are run normally by citizens of
the Country in which they are located, and provide
a good service issuing Visas for Thailand. Here
you can normally obtain a one year Visa with
multiple entry options (allowing you to go in and
out of Thailand during that year without having to
apply for another Visa). You can ask for an (O)
Visa for simply living in Thailand or a (B) Visa
which allows you to apply for a Work Permit once
you are in Thailand. Again, more complete details
on our web site at www.pattayaexpatsclub.com.
Incidentally, your Visa can be processed by mail
at any of these Honorary Consuls.
Option II - Retirement Visa
For this option, first obtain a 90 day Tourist
Visa from any Thai Embassy, before you leave your
home Country, or in Malaysia or Cambodia if you
already are in Thailand. On the internet you can
search for the keywords “thai embassy” for the
location nearest to you. Note that this 90 day
Visa allows you to enter Thailand during the next
30 days, and to stay in Thailand for a total of 60
days from the date of your arrival. In Pattaya,
you can get this extended another 30 days for a
payment of 500 baht ($12).
While in Thailand, you then need to apply for a
Retirement Visa, but be advised that this is
sometimes a frustrating and lengthy process.
These are the regulations posted by at least one
Thai Embassy on their web site. Note that even if
you are under 50 years of age, our expats can
probably suggest some alternatives. If you need
additional help or clarification, please attend
one of our regular Pattaya Expats Meetings or
check out the continually updated Visa Information
at www.pattayaexpatsclub.com. To the best of our
knowledge, the information on this site is correct
but if you have information to the contrary, or
feel that there is something we have missed,
please let us know at info@pattayaexpatsclub.com.
VISA ISSUANCE FOR THE SENIOR AGED 50 YEARS AND
ABOVE
(NON-IMMIGRANT VISA – CATEGORY "O-A")
This type of visa will be issued to applicants
aged 50 years and above, wishing to take a retreat
in the Kingdom for a period of at least one year..
I. QUALIFICATION OF AN APPLICANT
• A foreign national whose age is 50 years or
above.
• Not being prohibited from entering the Kingdom
under the Immigration Act B.E. 2522 (A.D.1979).
• Having in their possession an amount of money
that is not less than 800,000 Baht
or a monthly income of 65,000 Baht, or savings and
annual income totaling not less
than 800,000 Baht. For instance, if you have an
income of 30,000 baht a month, you would need to
show savings of 440,000 baht - 800,000 less (12
times 30,000)
II. REQUIRED DOCUMENTS FOR VISA APPLICATION
• A copy of visa application form completely
filled out.
• Two passport-sized photos of the applicant taken
within the past six months.
• Photocopy of the applicant’s travel document
with validity not less than 18 months.
• Financial documents (copy) as stated in I.
III. CHANNELS TO SUBMIT VISA APPLICATION
Applicants can submit their applications both at
the Thai consular missions abroad and at the
Office of the Immigration Bureau in Thailand.
The whole process will take about one to one and a
half months.
Option III – On Entry Tourist Visa
Enter the Country with no Visa, and you will be
allowed to stay for 30 days as a Tourist – as long
as you are a resident of one of the following
Countries:
1. ARGENTINA
2. AUSTRALIA
3. AUSTRIA
4. BAHRAIN
5. BELGIUM
6. BRAZIL
7. BRUNEI
8. CANADA
9. CHILE
10. CYPRUS
11. DENMARK
12. DJIBOUTI
13. EGYPT
14. FIJI
15. FINLAND
16. FRANCE
17. GERMANY
18. GREECE
19. ICELAND
20. INDONESIA 21. IRELAND
22. ISRAEL
23. ITALY
24. JAPAN
25. KENYA
26. KUWAIT
27. KOREA, Republic of
28. LUXEMBOURG
29. MALAYSIA
30. MAURITANIA
31. MEXICO
32. MOROCCO
33. MYANMAR
34. NETHERLANDS
35. NEW ZEALAND
36. NORWAY
37. OMAN
38. PAPUA NEW GUINEA
39. PHILIPPINES
40. PORTUGAL
41. QATAR
42. SAUDI ARABIA
43. SENEGAL
44. SINGAPORE
45. SLOVENIA
46. SOUTH AFRICA
47. SPAIN
48. SWEDEN
49. SWITZERLAND
50. TUNISIA
51. TURKEY
52. UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
53. UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN
IRELAND
54. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
55. VANUATU
56. WESTERN SAMAO
57. YEMEN
At the end of the 30 days you may apply for an
extension (10 days only) at the Pattaya
Immigration Office (500 baht)
And these are some other options for a Tourist
Visa:
• Before leaving your home Country, apply for a 60
day Tourist Visa at the Thai Embassy. Just
recently, in Washington, the charge was $15 and it
was a requirement to apply on one day and pick it
up the next day. This Visa is valid for 2 months
from the date of entry to Thailand, and you can
obtain a 30 day extension (500 baht) by applying
at the Pattaya Immigration Office. You may also
apply for a double entry Visa which means you can
enter Thailand twice, on the same Visa, allowing
you a total of 6 months in the Country – 2 months
plus one month on the first entry and two plus one
on the second entry.
• Apply for the same 60 day Tourist Visa (or
double entry Visa) in a neighboring Country, such
as Cambodia or Malaysia (Penang is probably the
least hassle although the Embassy staff in Pnom
Phen are also very helpful).
• Note that for all of these options you must
cross the borders of Thailand to obtain
extensions, other than the 10 day or 30 day
extension issued by the Pattaya Immigration
Office.
Option IV – Residence Visa
THAI RESIDENCE
Who can apply?
A foreign National who has been permitted to stay
in Thailand for a total of at least 3 years up to
the date of the Application for Residency.
What are the Categories under which Residency may
be granted?
Investment of a minimum of 10 million baht or,
• Employment in Thailand with a salary of at least
80,000 baht per month or,
• Relationship with a Thai Citizen – wife, husband
of at least one year, father, mother or children
under 20.
• Having a particular expertise, with at least a
Bachelor degree and a certification from your
Government.
When can you apply?
• Normally the applications may be submitted from
about the 15th of December (each year) until the
end of December. Exact date is announced by the
Minister of the Interior.
Where can you apply:
• Applications are accepted at Section 1, Sub –
Division 1, Immigration Division 1, Immigration
Bureau (Room 301), Soi Suan Plu, South Sathorn
Road, Sathorn District, Bangkok.
How much does it cost?
• The non – refundable application fee is 2,000
baht.
The Residence Permit Fee is 25,000 baht if you
have a Thai family and 50,000 baht otherwise.
If you have any questions regarding Visas to
Thailand, please contact Pete by e-mail at info@pattayaexpatsclub.com
NEW VISA FEES – BEGINNING AUG. 26, 2003
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs has advised all
Royal Thai Embassies and Royal Thai Consulate
Generals to begin charging the new visa rates
beginning August 26, 2003.
Transit Visa US$20.00
Tourist Visa US$25.00
Non-Immigrant Visas: Single Entry US$50.00,
1 Year Multiple-Entry US$125.00,
3 Year Multiple-Entry for persons who hold the
travel documents of the APEC member countries to
enter the Kingdom of Thailand for the purpose of
business US$125.00
There is some indication that the Retirement Visa
(O-A) is considered to be an extension of an
existing an “O” Visa. If true, the new fee would
be 1,900 baht.
The new Visa fees in Thai Baht are -
Transit visa, single entry – 800 baht;
Non-immigrant visa, single entry – 1,000 baht;
Non-immigrant visa, multiple entry for use within
one year - 5,000 baht;
Application for visa extension - 1,900 baht;
Application for a single re-entry permit – 1,000
baht;
Application for a multiple re-entry permit – 3,800
baht;
Application for a residence permit - 7,600 baht;
Approval of a residence permit (payable on receipt
of residence book) - 191,400 baht; Approval of a
residence permit (payable on receipt of residence
book) for a foreigner married to a Thai, the
spouse of a resident, and any of their children
who have not reached the status of a Thai juristic
person (i.e., unmarried children aged below 20
years of age) – 95,700 baht.
Health Care
As explained in an earlier section in this series
– health care in Pattaya and the surrounding areas
is generally excellent and relatively inexpensive.
And perhaps the best way to provide you with the
information that you need is to detail the various
options open to you.
One word of caution – wherever you are treated
(pharmacy, clinic, hospital etc.) there seems to
be a general tendency to over prescribe
prescription drugs. Often a simple sore throat or
fever will result in you taking home four or five
different medications, so use common sense in
limiting the variety of prescriptions. Find out
exactly what each medication is for, before you
start taking it.
Pharmacies or Drug Stores:
There are many excellent pharmacies in Pattaya,
two of them open 24 hours, but our recommendation
is to use one of the Boots the Chemist branches –
there is one in the Royal Garden Mall and another
on Walking Street.
Here there is always a pharmacist on duty and you
can probably rely upon the quality of the drugs
prescribed. There are sometimes accounts in the
newspaper about fake drugs on sale (such as look
alike versions of Viagra) so it is prudent to
purchase your drugs and prescriptions at a large,
well known company.
Remember that many of the drugs and medications
available in your home country may not be
available in Thailand. For instance, Lotrel is a
medication for hypertension that is widely
prescribed in the United States, but is just not
sold in Thailand. However, there are equivalent
drugs (in this case two tablets to replace one
capsule), so you need an experienced pharmacist or
doctor to recommend the available drugs. At
www.webmd.com, and at other similar sites, you can
find information about your particular medication,
and its equivalent if necessary.
Clinics or Doctor’s Offices:
There are literally hundreds of these health care
Clinics in Pattaya, many of them specializing in a
particular field (urology, dermatology etc) but
often claiming expertise in everything from sexual
dysfunction to plastic surgery!
Many of these Clinics are well run but the
licensing regulations appear to be quite lax, so
unless you have a specific recommendation from
someone you trust, be careful about risking your
health care at these Clinics – even though they
are so convenient and are open sometimes round the
clock.
Our recommendation for a General Practitioner is
Dr. Oliver who has an excellent office in Soi Day
Night, close by to the Pattaya People newspaper
office. I have no connection with Dr. Oliver
(other than as an occasional patient) but all of
the expats I know, who have used his services,
recommend him highly. He was trained in
Switzerland and then took the exams all over again
in Thailand, when he married a Thai wife and moved
to Thailand. Here you will get the best of care at
a reasonable price, and with very little waiting.
One other tip – if you are paying for your Thai
partner to attend one of the many Clinics in
Pattaya, do not go with them when they seek
treatment. The cost probably will be inflated if a
rich “Farang” is about to pay the bill.
Hospitals:
There are four or five hospitals in the Pattaya
area, all providing excellent care but at widely
varying prices. However, compared to the United
States the cost at all of them is minimal (even if
you have no insurance) and the convenience (access
to specialists, little waiting time) sure beats
service in the United Kingdom.
Two hospitals go out of their way to provide
health care services to foreigners with up scale
facilities, packaged health care options and no
language barriers with the nurses and doctors.
There is the Pattaya International Hospital and
the Bangkok Pattaya Hospital, and this second one
has the lower prices.
My recommendation is to use the Bangkok Pattaya
hospital and to consider purchasing one of their
health care packages. For 2,000 to 3,000 baht
(US$45 to US$70) you get a thorough physical, plus
good discounts on any future visits to the
Emergency Room and treatment as an in patient at
the hospital. Check out the available packages
soon after you arrive in Pattaya, rather than
waiting until you need their services.
Health Insurance:
There are a variety of health insurance plans
available, from several different companies, but
the Buyer should beware. Even though you may have
purchased a comprehensive policy on paper, the
real test is the amount of the bill that is
actually covered and the speed with which your
claims are settled.
Our web site at www.pattayaexpatsclub.com has up
to date information on several insurance plans
(expect to pay between 30,000 to 70,000 baht per
year depending upon your age), but you may also
want to check at the Bangkok Pattaya hospital to
find out their experience with the various
companies.
Pre existing conditions will not be covered, at
least for a period of time, and you need to check
if your policy can be renewed as you get older.
There have been cases of policies being cancelled
after a claim has been paid, so check with other
expats before you purchase your health insurance.
The Pattaya Expat Club and Expat Friends of
Pattaya meetings are a great place to get advice
on this and all other aspects of living in Pattaya.
If you have an address in the United Kingdom then
Boots the Chemist has an extremely attractive
policy for overseas travelers – it is called Gap
Insurance and can cover you up to one year, and
similar policies may be available in the USA and
other Countries. Again, check our web site for
details.
What about dental care and eye care? High quality
services are available throughout the city but,
particularly for dental care, choose a doctor
affiliated with the Bangkok Pattaya hospital or
rely upon the recommendation of a trusted friend.
For instance, there is a very good dentist on the
opposite side of the road to the Friendship
Supermarket in South Pattaya. Many of the eye care
clinics are very up to date but just use care in
finding out the cost and what it covers, before
you commit yourself.
If you have any questions on health care in
Pattaya, please check out our web site at
www.pattayaexpatsclub.com for continuously updated
information, or e-mail Pete with specific
questions at info@pattayaexpatsclub.com.
Accommodation
Luckily, accommodation is not a problem in Pattaya,
with rooms, hotels, condominiums to rent or buy
and homes of every sort to rent or buy. All at
reasonable prices but with the best bargains
available during the slow season, from May through
September each year.
Hotels:
You can spend as much as 2,000 baht and up at some
of the luxury hotels (the Dusit Resort for
instance) and this is still a bargain compared to
many other Countries, but here I will try to give
you some suggestions for the more typical hotels.
But first, unless you are arriving at the peak of
the high season (November, December or January),
it is preferable not to book in advance. Unless
you have stayed at a particular hotel before, it
is nice to be able to see the room being offered
before you pay for it, and often, you can
negotiate a lower rate at Reception – especially
for long stays.
If you are nervous about arriving in a strange
place with no hotel arranged, then my
recommendation would be to book for one night at a
reasonably priced hotel (800 to 1,000 baht or
about US20) and then find the hotel of your choice
for however long you are in Pattaya.
If I was asked to recommend a hotel to my family
or friends, these would be my choices:
Luxury – the Dusit Resort in North Pattaya.
Estimate 1,500 to 2,000 baht per night (about
US$35)
Mid Range – the Silver Sand Villa on Jomtien
Beach. 500 to 1,000 baht (US$12 to US$25). I
stayed there for 3 months a couple of years back
and there are two beautiful pools and the service
is so friendly. Highly recommended.
Low End – good, clean, quiet, comfortable rooms,
with air conditioning will cost just 350 to 400
baht (about US$8) per night at the Apex Hotel in
Central Pattaya. I have stayed there myself a
couple of times and I can tell you that this hotel
is a real bargain.
Of course there are many, many other excellent
hotels, from 300 to 2,500 baht per night, so it is
easy to find the perfect hotel for you, in the
right location and at the right price. And if you
need help with this, just e-mail Pete at info@pattayaexpatsclub.com
Rooms:
If you are planning on a long stay of 3 months or
more, and you are on a limited budget, then you
may want to consider renting a room – normally in
a low rise or high rise apartment block.
These are pretty basic, with a fan rather than air
conditioning, and everything in one room (except
the bathroom) but at really low prices of 3,000 to
5,000 baht monthly.
This includes electricity and water (but no
telephone normally) and you can make yourself
quite comfortable in this basic accommodation. In
fact it sure beats a cold, unfriendly bed sitter
in rain swept England! And at US$70 to $115 per
MONTH, you can spend your cash on enjoying the
good life in Pattaya.
Renting a Condominium:
There is an over supply of condominiums in Pattaya
and Jomtien, so if you look around a little you
can find a beautiful place (with a great view) at
a very reasonable rent.
You will be required to sign a contract for at
least 6 months, probably be required to pay the
first and last months rent upon moving in, and the
rental will be about 8,500 to 15,000 baht monthly,
plus electricity and telephone bills of course. So
for approximately US$200 to $350 per month, plus
US$45 for moderate use of electricity and the
telephone, you would typically have a large living
and dining room, a kitchen, separate bathroom and
shower, a nice bedroom and the use of the
community pool and spa.
Add your choice of a live-in partner and the fun
of living in Pattaya and you will wake up each
morning with a smile on your face – guaranteed!
Renting a Home:
This is another good choice if you enjoy getting
to know your neighbors – chances are that the
local Moms and Dads and their well behaved
children will often be sharing a meal with you in
your front garden.
Even if you eventually plan on buying a home or
condominium, it’s a good idea to live in the
neighborhood for a while before buying. There are
normally many homes available for rent – single
and two story for about 8,000 baht to 15,000 baht
(or more if you are looking for a luxury home).
US$185 to US$350 per month plus utilities.
For the last couple of years I have been renting a
nice bungalow in Suksabai Villas. This is in South
Pattaya, off Theprasit Road, and has a nice mix of
about 60% foreigners and 40% Thais in the
development.
Most of the expats are from the USA, UK, or
Germany etc., with most having permanent Thai
partners. Just on our road there are 4 or 5
families with very young children (6 to 18 months)
so it is a great place to make friends in pleasant
surroundings.
Most of the homes have gardens – with either lawns
or tiled areas for outdoor picnics, and there are
flowers growing everywhere. You just have to put a
dead looking stick in the rich soil and in 3 weeks
you have the start of a papaya tree!
My home has a huge living room with a separate
kitchen and dining room, 2 bedrooms, two bathrooms
and air conditioning. The rent is 10,500 baht per
month (US$250) and the only other monthly expenses
for the home are:
Electricity 1,000 baht (US$24), telephone (mostly
computer use) 800 baht (US$20), water 200 baht
(US$5), cable TV 350 baht (US$8). So estimate
about US$300 a month for your home.
Buying a Home or Condominium in Pattaya
How do you go about it? Very carefully seems to be
the best advice, so do yourself a favor and join
us at the regular Sunday morning breakfast
meetings of the Pattaya Expats Club – berore you
commit to buying a home. Here you will find many
expats who have “been there, done that” and you
will get invaluable, free advice on buying your
home, and many other aspects of life in the land
of smiles.
Here is some general information, but please
e-mail Pete at info@pattayaexpatsclub.com if you
need answers to specific questions not covered
here.
Can I buy a condominium in Pattaya?
Buying a condominium, is perhaps the simplest and
easiest option available to foreigners. The only
restrictions on purchasing a condominium, are that
the percentage of units sold to foreigners cannot
exceed forty nine percent (49%) of the total
number of units in the condominium block; and that
the funds used to buy the condominium have been
remitted from abroad and correctly recorded as
such by a Thai Bank. Purchases of condominiums by
foreign individuals come under the jurisdiction of
the Condominium Act B.E. 2535 (1992).
The owner of each condominium is issued with a
certificate of unit ownership. The certificate
also has a statement saying exactly what
percentage of rights over the common areas of the
building each owner has.
Can I own a house and land in Pattaya?
Ownership of land is governed by the Land Code BE
2497 (1954), the Civil and Commercial Code, Land
Reform for Agriculture Act BE 2518 (1975) and the
regulations set forth by the Ministry of the
Interior.
Although Thai law prohibits foreigners from owning
land in Thailand, there are various ways in which
you can structure your affairs so that you can own
land, and still comply with existing Thai laws:
Nominee with Lease and Option to Buy - you can use
a Thai Nominee to purchase the house/land and have
a 30 year lease with a 30 by 30 year option from
the nominee. In order to be enforceable, any lease
for a period of longer than three years must be
registered, which involves payment of a
registration fee and stamp duty based on a
percentage of the rental fee for the whole lease
term. The original registered lease remains in
force and effect even if the property is sold. The
drawbacks to a lease include the fact that the
parties can contractually agree to renewals, but
this right cannot be registered and is not
effective against a purchaser of the property, and
that the lessee cannot (without the lessor's
consent) sublease, sell or transfer his or her
interest.
Nominee with Mortgage - you can use a Nominee to
purchase the house/land and have a mortgage
(registered with the appropriate land department
office) on the property in your favour. However,
in some circumstances the Thai courts have ruled
that this was not a bona fide mortgage, but rather
it was a mortgage contrived to circumvent the
existing laws of Thailand prohibiting foreign
ownership of land. It is important to note that
only the owner of the land is entitled to mortgage
the land; the lessee of land does not have the
same privilege.
Usufruct Interest (Sidhi-kep-kin) - gives you
temporary ownership rights to things on or arising
from the land. In practice, a usufruct is limited
to a 30 year maximum period; like leases, the
agreement can be successively renewed. In contrast
to a lease, a usufructury interest can be sold or
transferred, although it expires upon the death of
the holder of the usufruct and therefore cannot be
inherited.
Limited Liability Company - this form of
purchasing property is the most popular with
foreign investors as the Articles of Association
can be varied to allow greater protection for
foreign minority shareholders where majority Thai
ownership is required under the Alien Business
Law. Thai law requires that 51% of the shares be
held by Thai juristic persons, however, any
company with more than 40% foreign interest that
purchases land will be investigated by the Central
Land Office in Bangkok (under Section 74 of the
Land Code) to ensure that the company has not been
organized in an attempt to circumvent the
prohibition against foreign ownership of land.
This results in the foreign ownership of the
company being limited at 39%, but with the
recommended changes to the Articles of
Association, the foreigner can be the only
director of the company, and the only officer of
the company who can commit or bind the company in
any contractual dealings - effectively giving the
minority shareholder control.
What is a Tor Tor Sam (3)?
A Tor Tor Sam (3) is an official bank document
issued by the receiving bank upon the receipt of
foreign currency into your bank account in
Thailand. You must request a Tor Tor Sam from your
bank when you are remitting funds to Thailand for
the purpose of purchasing a condominium, and the
Tor Tor Sam must specify that the remittance is
solely for the purpose of purchasing a property -
Code 5.22.
Are there Title Deeds in Thailand? Can I purchase
Title Insurance?
A Title Deed is the purest form of evidence that
an individual owns a piece of land. Title Deeds
are given only for areas of Thailand which are
surveyed. For areas which are not surveyed, there
are other documents for land possession such as
evidence of the possession of the right to utilise
the land or other interests in the land. These
documents are called "Nor Sor Sam (3) and Nor Sor
Sam (3) Kor". Unlike the Title Deeds, these Nor
Sor documents are issued to show the possessors'
exploitation of the land. Though these documents
do not provide ownership rights, as do Title
deeds, they can still be registered for transfer
of the lands for which they are issued. Title
insurance is not available in Thailand.
Can I get a Mortgage Loan in Thailand?
Foreigners generally cannot mortgage properties in
Thailand, however, most of the financial
institutions in Thailand provide loans for real
estate purchasing to Thais and Thai companies. It
is common for a real estate developer to arrange
for his customers to have a financing package from
a financial institution. In most real estate
development projects, a down payment can be made
in installments from 10 to 24 months. After the
down payment has been paid, the sale contract will
be made and the balance amount is paid through the
loan which is financed from a financial
institution. The financial institution requires
you to mortgage the property with it as collateral
against the loan.
Land Appraisals and Valuations
Finding the exact appraisal price for land is
difficult, since there are generally three
different appraisal rates; the government rate,
the appraisal company's rate and the rate which is
considered to be fair market value of the land.
Over the last few years all of these rates have
begun to come closer together. Check with a
trusted Realtor before you buy.
Can my Thai Wife own Land?
Prior to 1998, any Thai woman who married a
foreigner would lose her right to purchase land in
Thailand. She could, however, still retain land
that she owned prior to marrying the foreigner.
However, the recent (1999) Ministerial regulation
now allows Thai national's married to foreigners
the right to purchase land, but the Thai spouse
must prove that the money used in the purchase of
freehold land is legally solely theirs with no
foreign claim to it. This is usually achieved by
the foreign spouse signing a declaration stating
that the funds used for the purchase of property
belonged to the Thai spouse prior to the marriage
and are beyond his claim.
Are there Property Taxes in Thailand?
There are no property taxes as such in Thailand
that are exactly equivalent to the property taxes
in the west, however, the most comparable taxes on
properties in Thailand are the Land Tax and the
Structures Usage Tax. The Land Tax levied on land
is so miniscule, that in practice the body charged
to collect it, rarely bothers to do so, and if
they do, they usually wait several years until the
amount accumulates. The second tax, the Structures
Usage Tax, relates to buildings, is collected by
the municipal office or district office, and is
only applied to properties used for commercial
purpose.
What are the other costs of buying a property in
Thailand?
On all purchase/sale of property in Thailand there
is a stamp Duty of 0.5%, a transfer fee of 0.01%,
a business tax of 0.11% levied against an owner
who has been in registered possession of the
property less than 5 years, and Income Tax. There
is no Capital Gains Tax in Thailand, unlike many
countries, and Income Tax (usually between 1.0 -
3.0%) on property is the comparable replacement.
There are no set rules on who pays the income tax,
and it is just another part of the bargaining
process, as with all the other costs of the
transfer of ownership.
And if that has thoroughly confused you – don’t
worry about it. It is all really quite simple if
you work with the right attorney and Realtor, and
our Pattaya Expats Club is always available to
point you in the right direction.
Additional Income
SUPPLEMENTING YOUR INCOME IN PATTAYA
So finally you have decided to make the big move
to Pattaya, and now you have to work out how you
are going to pay your day to day expenses.
If you are like many expats that are lucky enough
to live in Pattaya, you probably have some money
saved and perhaps even a regular income such as a
monthly Social Security or Pension check (or
cheque for the Brits!) or income from investments.
Whether it is enough or not depends upon your
preferences and your lifestyle of course. I have
friends that are living here quite happily on just
25,000 to 30,000 baht (US$580 to $700) a month,
and others that feel deprived on anything less
than US2,000 a month. My own experience is that a
couple can live a very good life in Pattaya on
40,000 baht a month, close to US$1,000.
So you may decide that you need to make some extra
money, and this section is to explore some of the
options open to you.
A word of warning however. The police in Pattaya
treat visa and work permit violations very
seriously, and on any day it is not uncommon to
find up to 10 foreigners locked up in the Beach
Road police station jail under really inhumane
conditions! Simply for overstaying their Visa, by
a few days sometimes, or for working without a
work permit.
And when these folks do eventually get out of
prison (I know of some that have been incarcerated
for 9 weeks or more), they are forced to leave the
Kingdom and are not allowed back in! And that
could put a real damper on your retirement plans.
So please, do it the right way because it is not
too difficult to get a one year multiple entry (B)
visa (preferably in your home Country) and then a
Work Permit once you arrive in Pattaya. Check out
our site at www.pattayaexpatsclub.com for
continuously updated Visa information, and visit
our Expat Friends of Pattaya Club or the Pattaya
Expats Club for free advice once you arrive in
Pattaya. Or e-mail Pete at info@pattayaexpatsclub.com
with specific questions. Also, check out
www.thaivisa.com for up to date information.
Anyway, here are a few income making ideas, but
first, check out my site at www.pattayabizclub.com
for an innovative idea that may appeal to you.
1. Teaching English
If you are a native English speaker, one of the
simplest ways to make money is as an English
teacher. You will need a certification such as
TEFL (Teaching English as a Foreign Language)
which you can obtain in Thailand, and then the
best way to find positions is by answering
advertisements in the Bangkok Post or the Pattaya
Mail. Unfortunately this job does not pay too well
(typically 20,000 to 30,000 baht monthly full
time), but I have a good friend who makes about
47,000 baht a month in several different part time
teaching jobs. See our web site for information on
TEFL courses.
2. The Internet
This Company has a unique product and a really
innovative way of marketing. It may be worth while
getting in on the ground floor – it costs nothing
to enroll and you could make a nice little income.
The product is a piece of software that, when
people visit your free web site, it automatically
checks out their computer for things that should
not be there, and analyses how best to
dramatically and immediately improve their
computer’s performance and internet connection. It
will show them all of the unwanted things in their
computer that are slowing performance – all at the
click of a button.
...All of the extra files that are consuming
memory & slowing down the system, undisclosed
viruses hiding in the registry, spiders, spyware
software, unwanted cookies that cause numerous
pop-ups and slows down their computer's
performance or can cause it to crash. It will also
show other maintenance and security issues.
Finally, after "test driving" this new technology
product for up to a full hour by simply clicking a
button & then seeing it at work, and seeing how it
improves their PC's performance right before your
eyes, (faster loading web pages, enhanced
multimedia experiences, etc.) your visitor will
then be asked "if they want to buy the product at
an incredibly attractive price of only $39.95, or
if they want to return their PC to its previous
slow operating condition?"
If you have signed up, you will get a commission
on everyone that buys from your web site. No
selling, just refer people to your free web site.
The product will be launching in a few days so pre
register now for a good position.
Pretty neat don’t you think? If you are interested
in getting in on the ground floor, you can enroll
for free at http://www.iarevolution.com/register.aspx?Id=52668611
3. Your own business
Soon after arriving in Thailand for the first
time, I opened up an Internet Café with one Thai
and 2 expat partners. It was a good experience for
me because although we made no money, at least we
didn’t lose any either, so here are my guidelines
based on that experience.
Spend as little up front money as possible. In the
case of the Internet Café we each put in US$2,000
which was enough to get started, including the
rent, the improvements, the equipment and the
initial advertising. Everything we spent after
that was from income. I have lost count of the
number of times I have seen expats
enthusiastically spend half a million baht for a
bar or go go bar, then another half million
improving the place, BEFORE finding out that there
was very little income!
Choose your partners wisely. It is not generally
the Thai people you need to watch out for but your
friendly expat who is long on promises but short
on deliveries. Pattaya is full of them.
And make sure you ask a million questions at the
Expat Friends of Pattaya Club Saturday brunch
meetings, before you commit your hard earned cash.
4. The Export Business
Here’s the dream! You live in Thailand taking care
of the logistics of exporting Thai products to
your home Country while your partner at home takes
care of the sales and distribution.
A great idea but the reality is that the more
difficult task is in your home country. And
without a steady stream of orders, you have
nothing to do in Pattaya, and no income from the
enterprise.
But it can work, if you make sure you have taken
care of the sales end properly, and that you have
few up front costs while you are waiting for those
first orders. Choose a product with a high margin
that is easy (inexpensive) to ship, for example
Stingray Leather Products. You can purchase a
beautiful stingray belt with its distinctive crown
markings for 1,500 baht (US$35) ship it priority
to the States for US$15 and sell it for US$95, a
profit of US$45 which can be improved if you can
buy at wholesale prices.
Again, do not become involved in any type of
income producing activity, without the proper visa
and work permit. It is just not worth the risk. In
fact, I recently became aware of the fact that the
authorities now are cracking down on illegal
businesses by tracking folks that are regularly
shipping products overseas by Fedex and DHL for
instance.
Finance and Banking
I am no financial wizard, so I am not about to
tell you how to invest your money in this section.
Rather I have included some ideas and guidelines
to make sure that you have cash when you need it
in Pattaya and that your savings are secure.
Most transactions in Thailand, even the purchase
of expensive appliances for example, are for cash.
In fact, many vendors seem to discourage credit
card sales by charging you a fee of 3% if you
insist on using your credit card, and, of course,
many places do not even accept credit cards
However, for life’s small emergencies, please try
to hang on to one or two credit cards from your
home country. These should be MasterCard or Visa
(the most widely used here) and make sure that you
can check your balances and transactions on line
and also pay your balance on line. For this of
course you will need to maintain a bank account in
your home country, again, preferably an online
bank account.
Let me give you an example of the arrangement I
have with a USA registered online bank and a
MasterCard issued by another USA bank. It is
necessary for you to have a USA address for any
statements to be sent from the credit card company
or the Bank, but as you pay all your bills online,
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